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1905

A tape made in the early 1960s by G.C. Hayward: "I'll start with the unusual fact of the Horner history. I had two grandfathers Horner. My grandmother's name was Elizabeth Kinsey. She was born in Virginia, I don't know just where. But she had these two suitors, Edward Horner and Brazil Horner. They lived happily together for about ten years. First she chose Edward. They lived happily together for about ten years and born to them were Philip and David. Philip was my father. After my grandfather Horner's death, Grandmother married Brazil Horner and they had five daughters. They're all dead now.
"His name was Philip; mother's name was Ellen. Her maiden name was Swaim. His father's name was Reddin' Swaim, an unusual name, Reddin' Swaim, and her mothers name was Malinda Staggs. They had nine children. Mother was next to the youngest. My mother and father had six children, the same as in George's family. I was next to the youngest and George was next to the youngest in his family. I think I'll take a little time out now to see where I am...
"Father and Mother both lived in West Elkton, Ohio. I don't really know just when the two families came. There were four children in West Elkton. Later they moved to Richmond where two other children were born. I was next to the youngest.
June: "Then you lived in Dublin?
"In 1898, we moved to Dublin. There I attended school until nineteen four, when I came to Richmond. Then nineteen seven I married George...Homsher Hayward.
"We had three [children]. Alice was born in nineteen seven, George Junior in nineteen nine and Mary in nineteen twelve. Alice died at the age of five. We were then living in West Alexandria, Ohio. We moved back to Richmond. George and Mary both attended school here in Richmond."

Dublin School Enumeration: (Spring) 1901- Phil Horner (Parent), May Horner, (born) 7-1885 (16), in Richmond (Signed) Ellen Horner.
1902- Horner, Philip, May Horner, 7-85 (17), Richmond, Ella S. Horner
1903- Horner, Philip, May Horner, 7-85 (18), Richmond
1905- Horner, Philip, May Horner, 7-85 (20), Richmond, Ellen Horner

Books: Rand McNally World Atlas- Happy Birthday 7/13/42 To: Grandmother (Mrs. G.H. Hayward) From: Geo. C. Hayward Hazel A. Hayward George Joel Hayward

G.C. Hayward Autobiography (1994): My musically-gifted mother delighted in recalling that her 3-year old could whistle recognizable tunes, from his listening to street minstrels, before being able to talk." Also, in Junior High, "...a radio built with mother worked just fine."

G.C. Hayward, Interview (1994): "She was a telephone operator. And I told a huge story. At the time he was a motorman on the streetcar. And the offices were at 8th and Main Streets and the streetcar went up Main Street. And he...regularly, every time he came to 8th and Main, he would signal to her by beating the foot bell. You hit your foot on the floor, ding, ding, ding, ding and signaling to her, and she'd always get the message. She was a telephone operator for quite a while I guess, before they were married.
"My mother was a very talented person and was not inhibited about showing her abilities, except that there was not that much opportunity. But by the same token she had a range of abilities from acting to playing the piano. She could play it by ear and I loved it so well when she was going to the hospital for an operation and we all gathered in the living room to have a good-bye ceremony and she sat down and played some old-timers on the piano. And so then she was also in plays at the school and in fact she was the first president of the Parent Teachers Association...PTA. She was a good challenger for our learning things. For instance she and I always had games about remembering the names of the capitals of the various states in the country.
"My mother, with Aunt Linnie, I think, used to come to all of my violin recitals. And that was very nice, cause she was just responsible for me.
"...She was quite a seamstress. In fact, I think before she was married, I think she worked in a seamstress place, a dressmaking establishment. She and Aunt Linnie together I think. She was very good at it.
"My mother had a very fine hand, writing hand.
"We always had quite a celebration on Sundays, I think we always had roast beef or something like that but we were...She was intelligent enough and on the ball and concerned and responsible enough that we had good vegetables and of course meets and good distribution, enough to drink and so on so that we were treated carefully and maintained good health....We had pies and cakes and everything. Course back in those days the kitchen equipment wasn't comparable to the microwaves or whatever. In fact, this is hard to believe, our kitchen stove was operated with coal or wood and it had to be in operation, because you didn't have electric stoves, even in the hot summertime, that stove had to be in operation and of course outside of meal time it was warm and we weren't so used to eating cold meats and so on. But I remember on one side of that stove, and I can picture it so well, there were stove lids that you...you had a handle that you had to put in the holes to set it aside to put that fuel in then along side of it was a tank for hot water. To make the water hot, and of course that was another reason they had to be using it in hot weather, to make the hot water for bathing, because that's where we got our hot water for the tub.
"We had rules. I think it was general too. That you didn't go out in front of the house as a kid to play until after lunch, after noon time. You had to do your playing or whatever out in the back yard. But come noon and after that kids were playing baseball, hopscotch and mumbletypeg and everything else out in the streets. And the mothers would come out to the front and knit or sew or whatever and the swing would be on the front porch...
"Golly! I can remember people in the neighborhood that we, gosh we knew everybody up and down the street. I can remember their names. The Lantz family lived across the street. They had half a dozen or more kids. Across the street was an Italian, Joe La...LaSompthin, an Italian guy, he had a clothing business, I think, two houses away, next door, Mr. Sherman, he had his delivery business, he had a horse and wagon, and the Hinderbrinds who was the daughter of Mrs. Barnsner next door, and the Rickles family lived in the next block, and the Balls...gosh, isn't that something, I can remember all these people, and I can remember their houses and...but we were all good friends, no enemies, we never had any problems with kids damaging property or whatever.
"[Uncle Ed and Aunt Lizzie] had a farm south of Eaton, Ohio which is not far from Richmond, Indiana. And we used to go down there in the summertime and spend a couple of weeks and get to be on the farm and ride on the horses. And one time we were out after the cows and I was just a little kid but they fashioned a saddle for me after a burlap bag with straw in it and the rope around the belly of the horse. And we were after the cows which were allowed to feed on the roadsides. My cousin Ben and I...on the way back, however many miles it was, probably three or four, it started to rain. And the horse took off with me and I was hanging on for dear life because the saddle ended up twisting around so it was on the underside of the horse and I was hanging on the horse's neck and he of course run right into the stable and I dropped off... And I got a blister from that...you know where. My mother discovered it because we were down there with seven kids and having two of us and our parents and so on, I slept on a tickwork thing like you folks here on the floor in the living room. And my pajamas slipped or something or I guess I wore a nightshirt and she discovered I'd gotten the blisters from riding that horse without a saddle. I remember that just like it happened yesterday.
"Well, they [The Rickles] lived up the street from us in Richmond and they had 5 daughters...4 or 5...and I don't know what, maybe he was in the roofing business too, Jim Rickles and I don't remember her name but...Minnie, Minnie Rickles...And we went on summer vacation trips, so there was a place south of Centreville, which is 6 miles from Richmond and they had a summer cottage at the back of their property which was also on a kind of a little cliff...went down to a nice stream which you can swim in, or wade at least. And we'd go...Dad would rent from a funeral company one of their limousines and which accommodated all of their 4 or 5 kids and our 2 and adults and so on. Then we'd go down...I remember the first time we went down there it...we got caught in an awful rain storm and the roof leaked on this cottage and most of us or some of us crawled underneath the dining room table to keep out of the rain. Then we also had an outhouse there and it was my assignment to make a sign for it, because that was a busy place with all these kids and so on. And there was a pathway back to it with woods on either side. It was a two-holer and so I had to stretch a string across the passageway from one tree to the other. Made a sign, on one side it said "occupied" and then you could flip it over on the other side "Unoccupied" and it was a very essential operation, because you could run all the way back there without that kind of a sign and find it occupied, it was a wasted trip and maybe you didn't have the time or whatever to waste like that. Then I built steps coming down that incline to the creek, I remember that too, cutting steps into the soil and stones and so on, a picturesque place. Someplace I think there was a picture you may have seen in which I'm sitting on the ground and my mother was sitting at a chair having gotten her hair all wet and sitting in a bathing suit I think...having a discussion about something. I was doing something like wiping the water off my feet. [George said several years earlier that they went down to Fairfield and slept in tents, so they may have done both.]
"And we went up to visit them [Aunt Linnie her family] one time and in the days of Al Capone the famous mobster, an Italian. I was so impressed we never had...I guess we had keys to our house in Richmond but we never locked the doors and but there we not only had to...locks but they also had chains like we do now on our doors and I was quite captivated by seeing this safety arrangement. And then I must have been around fifteen years old by then because I was so delighted my dad let me drive most of the way home from Chicago. In those days we didn't have driving licenses so it didn't matter and but boy I was thrilled to be able to do that. We had an Overland sedan and it was a nice trip and a nice visit to a big city for a change.

G.G. Hayward (Nov. 1994): "...She was concerned about whether Paul could support a wife and he said 'Two can live as cheaply as one', and she said 'Only the horse and the sparrow.'"

Her obituary (Cincinnati) said that she "...lived for many years in Richmond, Ind., before coming to Cincinnati, and was the first president of the PTA of the Joseph Moore School in Richmond. She also was active in the First Christian Church there."

George C. Hayward, Interview (1994): "My parents, as a matter of fact lived with us in Cincinnati in the lower level [of George's house] which was just like on those pictures over there. They were looking out on that patio over there that you see at the same level, it was the basement level. But it was complete with two bedrooms, small ones, and a kitchen and living room, and bathroom, shower, the whole ball of wax. And they must have lived with us for four or five years, before they both had died.
"I remember something about her being even for all of her artistic ability being a very hard core sort of person too that when I had to go over to ...[?]...for meetings every week...every other Tuesday...one time I came back and found she was not at all in good condition, very feeble, and she said, "I wish you would get me a gun and she went through the motion of holding it as though she had one up to her lip...ready to go. It wasn't very long after that that she did go."

G.C. Hayward gave her interests as "music, education, history, drama, geography."

The first I remember of my grandmother was when she was 72. My grandparents had come to live with us, I believe, in the second house I lived in, 1912 Shades Crest Road. She made clothes for me when I was little. The sewing was very well done, and she used smocking on the fronts of dresses, and that was also done well. She also knitted sweaters for family members. She always had her knitting by her side when I saw her. She knitted a green and tan cable afghan that I have, with a matching one for my dolls. She knitted occasional sweaters for me until I was about 12, but at this point I was picky about what I wore. My mother's comment about the last sweater was that it wasn't of the usual quality. When I was a little girl and I had a cold, she fixed some awful syrup out of onions for me. Her forte was homemade noodles, which I learned to make. She would use shortribs for the stock and meat part. My father always complained about her "wilted lettuce" because he never liked that dish.

She married George Homsher Hayward (13) (A14).